Sansa Fuze With Rockbox Slow Music Upload

I "caused" Rockbox, beingness the original firmware developer for the Archos Jukebox 6000. apparently the firmware I wrote was and then bad around playlist handling and our CEO unwilling to open up source the lawmaking and so that the boys and girls wrote their ain. at times it was 1 of the rather large open source SW projects in terms of users, developers, testers, translators, doc writers. I'm kinda proud to take acquired that :) AMA

Haha. Hi, I had an Archos Jukebox 6000, in 2001 or so. From what I remember information technology was pretty awesome. The commencement MP3 thespian with a decent hard drive (available for some years before the iPod). I think my principal niggle was that information technology was missing a 'play randomly from my whole drove' feature if I recollect correctly. And I retrieve in that location was a limitation to the length of a playlist and so y'all couldn't but make a huge playlist and randomise that. Earlier rockbox there was some PC utility that would read the whole Jukebox file list and then generate a series of randomised playlists numbered 01 to 99 which covered everything. As such, a roundabout style of getting a global shuffle. In a way I think this is quite interesting, these days the idea of shuffling songs from your unabridged collection is very commonplace, but before big-capacity mp3 players people hadn't really thought of doing that before, then perchance information technology never made information technology onto 'features people desire' lists. Its obvious now, maybe it wasn't obvious then. Was there whatsoever idea given to a global shuffle feature?

the trouble with global shuffle was that you could have a LOT of music on the device, thus for a global shuffle you would demand to concur an index of ALL the music in memory, and I did not like that. As well, I was never a SHUFFLE ALL type of person myself since that would mix way as well dissimilar styles of music for my sense of taste - even today, I mostly heed to an album at a time

It doesn't require much memory to shuffle, essentially just an integer permutation generator and mayhap an index of block pointers. You could store the latter in the NV storage. This assumes no storable "playlist" at all. If you have playlists then shuffle is piffling.

true, simply as said below, I was a bit greenish at that time. what we did accept was that we would remember a song not by its full path which could be like 256 bytes long, but by merely 8 bytes, so when nosotros read in an playlist, we would convert each file path into these 8 bytes and use them to retrieve the tracks afterwards. that made parsing playlists "slow". Rockbox did access the playlist every bit a file, then they would but resolve the path when the next song was needed, but and then they had the time and leasure to write a Posix like file API whereas we moved in a hurry and used a much more than primitive block based approach. this was also born out of the fact that our pattern initially had only 128k of RAM and a larger SDRAM for buffering while the drive is off was simply added afterward...

Probably today I would utilize a bloom filter to avoid duplicate plays. You could even produce a transition matrix between albums with similar lawmaking and retention complication.

Very interesting. What was the evolution like for yous? How much time did you have to do this? How experienced were yous at the time? Were yous ever upset to hear it wasn't loved by users, or was information technology something y'all were upset at having to release in information technology's country due to a fixed deadline?

basically the "mp3 player engine" that was used by Archos (and a few other companies at that time, TerraTex M3PO, SSI NEO25/NEO35) was our first projection out of high school, so the lawmaking is pretty bad looking at information technology today :) I was never angry about the fact that people preferred the alternative, given that with Archos we were running at breakneck speed to release a new product every year, constantly piling on more features for amend or worse. there was little time to look dorsum and reverberate :)

I was more upset that Archos took our original design with a 4 line LCD and a rotary encoder and reduced it to a single line and U/D/L/R buttons - missing the whole point of "all" your music with you, thus needing a way to browse information technology fast...

No questions, simply a sincere thanks. Also, rec.audio.high-end thank you you.

Just a annotation - I had a Jukebox 6000 and I loved it! So at least one person didn't think the firmware was bad.

I loved it and I loved Rockbox too. It was my beginning USB ii.0 storage device I owned besides. Soooo fast!

really JB6000 was still USB 1.1 I think, only the JB Recorder would add USB2.0 speed

not in code, simply I remember I answered a few questions. in that location was also the fact that another MP3 player I was involved in, the Terratec M3PO had a feature to modify the MP3 playback speed and the Rockbox people wondered for years how we did that on the limited DSP that it had (same every bit on Archos products) - took them a long time and some hints to figure out :)

Can you lot tell us how yous managed this now, or are you non technically allowed to fifty-fifty today?

nope, the MAS had MP3 decode fixed in ROM and while you lot could upload your own algo into the RAM and run it, that meant no MP3 decode at the aforementioned time :)

MPEG layer 3 (MP3) differs from layers 1 and ii in the fact that the frame information for a given sound frame can be spread out over several consecutive MP3 frames, that makes the stream effectively VBR (variable bitrate) fifty-fifty if the full bitrate is fixed at e.grand. 128kbit/s. due to that you cannot only cut at MP3 frame boundaries. I wrote code to on-the-wing and in-memory convert a fixed bitrate MP3 stream into a variable bitrate ane with differing frame length for each frame, adding padding data if needed to adhere to the allowed standard frame sizes. In one case I had that I could drop or repeat MP3 frames, thus making the music play faster or slower. Since the reconstruction filters in MP3 decoder where already working across frame boundaries, they would also help to smooth over the artificial transitions introduced by this. This works nicely upward to a speed change of +/- 10%, going much slower would eastward.thousand. noticeably double snare drum hits or other percussive sounds. of course y'all can also reassemble the frames in reverse order, I have a prototype MP3 "DJ" player where yous can use a jog bicycle to scrub forwards and backwards through an MP3 file without decoding it. at that place, my secret is out :)

BTW, the original motivation to write that code was a bug in an early version of the DSP chip, it would produce a loud "click" each fourth dimension the MP3 data stream stopped or started. so instead of stopping the stream I would either play a file (processed as per above) or if stopped or paused repeately insert a frame of "silence" that I encoded for every possible sampling frequency. luckily total silence is a really short frame to store

I used to run this on a Sansa Clip+. It was an amazing combination: great audio quality, expandable storage via microSD, playback of a huge array of formats natively, it ran DOOM, and it just costed around $40 when information technology was new. At present I just use my phone and streaming, just I sort of miss that era.

My ~7 year sometime Sansa Clip+ is still going. Presently after buying it, I was fed up with it scanning everything when I turned it on. When I loaded Rockbox on information technology, and it was able to reliably go from off to playing music in two seconds, I knew information technology was a keeper! (That'southward a killer app right there!) I use it just about every day when commuting. I bought some other one for my dad about three years ago, but he doesn't utilise it, so I intend to inquire for information technology afterwards mine dies. (Who knows how long that will be. These things are built similar old Nokia phones.)

You lot must be lucky and/or careful. I've gone through a bunch, and aside from losing them, it'south always the headphone jack input that goes. Patently this was mutual plenty in that location were soldering how-to videos out there. One of the things I valued virtually is being able to navigate the device without looking at it - non possible with the motility to touchscreen interfaces most things accept moved to.

I loved my Sansa e200 and installed Rockbox. Just pulled it out of a drawer and remembered what a great piece of hardware it was - hadn't been used in years and the bombardment still had a accuse. The hardware bicycle selector is a lost piece of tech that needs to be recovered, perhaps for use in automobile stereos and Tv remotes. Rockbox was a great idea, well executed. Still I'm baffled why it's still seeing so much contempo activity because how few MP3 players are still in use.

I still have a Clip+/Rockbox that I load up with meditation tracks. I don't feel as bad falling comatose with this affair clipped to me every bit I would my phone.

I just picked up some other Sansa Clip Zip, I tend to lose them or have them stolen, on the last 1 the buttons wore out due to playing Rockblox too much! Withal my favorite media player with Rockbox. I had done an early port of NSF, SPC, and ADX players back when I had an iPod Photo, though I think the NSF 1 was redone since. I also did some work on a text-simply wikipedia viewer that was fun to have, though never really shippable: https://www.rockbox.org/tracker/job/4755

Haha, according to Amazon, I went through 10 clips in the last 10 years. They were the perfect music player for the gym or anywhere else you didn't desire to use a bulky and far more expensive phone. That being said, about three-4 years ago the quality really began to reject on the Clip models - not certain if they merely inverse their manufacturing place or what, only a lot of u.s.a. fans were disappointed. There really are no skilful options anymore for a standalone small MP3 histrion. You've got beefy Iphones and Android, expensive IPads (the Shuffle was a proficient option 'till it was discontinued) and dozens off terrible Chinese knockoffs with poor battery and software*. I also miss the days when there were a dozen major companies competing in the portable music space. https://www.amazon.com/s?g=mp3+player&ref=nb_sb_noss_2

In that location actually are still quite a few companies making mp3 players, but they telephone call them Digital Audio Players (DAPs) and market them to the audio enthusiast oversupply. The exercise cost a lot more than than the Sansa Clips did, merely yous get improve audio quality. Look up Fiio, Shanling, Cowon, and Sony DAPs on Amazon if you lot desire some examples.

Yeah I picked up three of them at a Radio Shack that was clearing them out, all gone now. Most of the value of those would be in the 32 or 64GB microSD card I'd put in them! Most recent one is a refurb off eBay, but the battery is pretty poor.

Judging from all the comments, the Sansa Clip+ was a pop selection. I used to accept 1 to and loved it, but eventually my use of a standalone mp3 players faded when I had a phone on me at all times and the last time I pulled it out of a drawer, I couldn't get the matter to hold a charge and it didn't seem worth the trouble to see if replacement batteries for it were fifty-fifty a thing.

Yes - I take Rockbox running on a Sansa Clip+ and it's superb. The just music player autonomously from Winamp that has a born out-of-phase stereo option! (aka 'vocal remover', though the effect is highly variable)

I take a similar story, information technology actually worked well. Nowadays information technology's hard to compete with services like Spotify, it'due south got basically all the music I care for accessible instantly. But I suppose that if music streaming follows in the footsteps of Television receiver testify/movie streaming where you have to subscribe to half a dozen services to get access to near of the content I'll accept to dust off my old Rockbox player and bittorent client. Hopefully it won't come to that.

I used to do this besides. I realised this weekend my mom still does after I set information technology up for her. Those things turn out to be about indistructible.

I've used Rockbox since I was pretty much a child. It had pretty practiced accessibility support, and a sansa Clip + was an order of magnitude cheaper than all the players made peculiarly for the blind. I call up being so proud of that purchase and my tech knowledge to really install Rockbox onto the player. A lot of my friends were impressed that I could accomplish something like that for such a depression price. I remember using Balabolka[1] to convert text ebooks to mp3, with a oral communication synthesizer, and then reading those books on the Sansa, for the lack of a build-in TTS. I switched to streaming and reading on my phone in like 2014. I never looked back, though I still have the Sansa lying around on my desk-bound. [i] http://cross-plus-a.com/balabolka.htm

Yep. Had an early 2000(southward) Jukebox, 10 GB I recall, that I got on clearance at Target. I loved that thing and used it for several years. Being into open source, I discovered Rockbox and installed it. I was already using Linux. In fact, Linux compatibility was foremost on my heed (in those days) when looking at buying any hardware. I especially liked Archos earphones that hooked over the ears and wrapped effectually the back of the neck. I had to guild multiple sets of those earphones separately. Alas, all things come to an end. It was replaced with an Archos 504 sound/video player with 80 GB. That was so cool too. I had to acquire my ffmpeg settings to convert videos to play on it. Side by side, I figured out the format, and technique to put videos onto my flip phone (before smartphones). Cool, neato, simply capacity was limited.

Exact same thing hither. Ane could actually interact with the customs very easily, the information was well organized and they fabricated changes in the lawmaking visible on the forepart page of their website. I had other players afterward, but since then it was always a requirement that it can run RockBox. I loved it peculiarly for its playlist management. Thanks RockBox team!

Same! At the time it was an heady feel to replace the default firmware with Rockbox. There was some danger involved as in that location was the small potential of bricking the hardware. I was so nervous, considering at the fourth dimension I was also young to beget replacing hardware. It went smoothly and paid off. It was instructive in my eventual switch to Linux. Proficient times.

Likewise me - My Jukebox 20 and building a calculator were my first introductions to open source and hardware development.

I actually wish I had more of the know how to make a Kickstarter/Crowd Supply for this. I imagine an mp3 thespian with native Rockbox back up would be very popular, particularly in the form factor of an iPod and/or a Sansa Clip.

I'd honey to meet this too and would be interested in funding it. I know that stand-alone mp3 players are a niche at present that everyone carries a far more than powerful phone. But there has to be enough support to make an open source Clip-like device profitable or at to the lowest degree intermission-even after costs. The hardware that ran early Clips, IPod shuffles, and other minor players existed 15 years ago. A dozen Chinese manufacturers still sell pocket-size players, which now are about the merely option left, just they skimp on quality components like batteries and decent software.

now that everyone carries a far more than powerful phone Power is hardly relevant in this day and historic period, as any device with a decent firmware should be able to handle a ton of files and formats (this wasn't always the instance, hence the need for rockbox). Smart phones have versatility, simply you lot sacrifice a lot on the music side. The audio hardware inside the smartphone isn't as good, and it took a lot of years until there was an android player that had the bare minimum of features required past an audio enthusiast, namely lossless back up (flac), replay gain, and gapless playback. Additionally, there are at present players that run android and have all the "fruit", so the benefits are dimished. But don't overlook the versatility of a standalone player, because relatively cheap devices like the Fiio X3 2 that I am yet running have other advantages compared to phone. It supports big sd cards (wasn't always a given on smart phones), has long battery life, has physical buttons (then can be operated without removing from pocket), and as well functions as a USB DAC. So, lots of wins there.

At that place are a bunch of niche ones still, they either become way low end or style loftier end. I have a FiiO X5 for my "regular" mp3 player and a Sansa Clip Sport for my workout one. Sadly, I work a daytime chore and don't really accept the time or will to actually capitalize on this. I do think that'd be a swell way for Rockbox to fund themselves though. Make a Kickstarter with Rockbox officially supporting information technology, and the profits could go to the budget of rockbox.

I've looked at the FiiO lineup and they do seem like some really sugariness hardware, though more than geared for the audiophile. Simply like you lot said, they're geared towards either the high end similar FiiO or the very very lowend (i.e. third world countries where smartphones are only showtime to get ubiquitous in the last few years).

I take a Gen 2, and at that place are some firmware warts, simply it works reasonably well. Sadly, their new offerings all use Android, then at present I take all of the hassles of a Phone (spying, out of engagement, etc.) in my mp3 player! I but want a unproblematic self contained mp3 histrion. If mine breaks, I recollect my next one will be an iPod loaded with Rockbox.

A few years ago I had the itch to do this and got equally far every bit buying a hardware development kit ane of the NXP LCP fries. They're low power ARM CPUs available in LQFP course (and so theoretically hand-solderable) and it should be not hard to port Rockbox to it. I got overwhelmed at the prospect of starting the CAD schematic and layout for the project (I've done elementary microcontroller boards in Eagle, but never one this circuitous). The daunting task was wiring up all the data and address lines for 2x large RAM chips and 2x Flash chips, and my ADHD kicked in, plus frustration at non being able to use programmer abstractions to do excursion CAD. I also kept not finding the time to port Rockbox on the hardware development kit. Side note: there'due south giant hole in the marketplace offerings for hobbyist unmarried board computers. You have microcontrollers with KB's of RAM, and things like the Raspberry Pi with GB'southward of RAM, just at that place'due south cypher with ~sixteen MB of RAM and a low power 32-bit processor. The fries exist, just no one has created a inexpensive & meaty hobbyist board (i.e. not a hw dev kit).

> Side note: there's giant hole in the marketplace offerings for hobbyist single board computers. ST's STM32 Discovery boards [1] fit that bill reasonably well. They're cheap (many under $20, well-nigh under $100), supported past an open toolchain (GCC / GDB / OpenOCD), and provide a wide variety of peripherals. Most parts don't accept more 1 or 2 MB of on-flake SRAM, only a decent number of their boards accept viii or 16 MB of external SDRAM. [i]: https://www.st.com/en/evaluation-tools/stm32-discovery-kits....

There have been a number of attempts at this over the years with Rockbox (not sure about recent years though every bit I no longer hang out in the dev aqueduct on freenode). All of them came to naught eventually though.

Well one idea is seeing if the Pine Community would be interested in working on this. They seem to be in the business concern of making Linux mode things, and I wonder if this would be up their aisle.

I just Googled "rockbox" kickstarter only your comment came up as the first hit :)

They are, but they are no longer being manufactured. They have the Clip Nada/Sport, and Rockbox is no longer supported on them. I use a CLip Sport for workouts, simply they are not near as good as the Prune+

Remember using information technology a lot in mid 2000s. On iPod Mini and the HP Player. Also Sansa. IIRC , on iPod it let you play more codecs then there were a few games thrown in. Loved it and that is what switched on my "change the native firmware" mode. Before this I did not know it could be washed. I also realized how OEM hobble the hardware with restrictive firmware. Now I endeavor non to buy Hardware (phones, routers etc) that can't exist flashed with custom firmware.

Every bit a student I learned C and how OSS projects work through hacking Rockbox to add together features to my iRiver H320. Fond memories and a very valuable learning feel.

Oh, I have fond memories of the H320 (it was released correct around the fourth dimension of the click-wheel iPod with the grayscale screen). I could watch movies on my portable music thespian in colour! My friends' minds were blown.

I still accept my H320, though I haven't powered information technology on in years. I even replaced the battery (with an iPod battery, with the wires swapped on the connector), and I replaced the difficult drive with a 30GB model. I likewise got some accessories for it: a dock for your desk, and also a remote control. Information technology was great for listening to music on airplanes. I'm planning to try selling it on Ebay now, since I merely employ my telephone at present.

That brings back memories! Installing Rockbox, switching the bombardment… I also found out later that y'all could go a ATA-to-CF Adapter and basically switch information technology to an SSD.

The great thing about the Iriver H340 (I had the forty GB version) was that it could play MP3 and Ogg Vorbis. Also, everyone was running around with iPod with a few GB. I was laughing my ass off. RockBox was a little scrap more friendly on the bombardment. I however use the USB OTG cable which came with my Iriver H340 (I gave the device itself abroad in 2008).

Man that name brings dorsum memories. Was anyone here involved in the iPod Magician community? I was 1 of the guys that worked on mapping hex cord locations to sprites and characters in each new firmware release. I wouldn't be surprised if I spent more than fourth dimension bricking and salvaging my iPod G4 with Rockbox, iPod Magician, iPod Linux, and the iPod Wikipedia port than actually playing music on the matter. I concluded up doing the aforementioned affair with the MacThemes community, specifically in mapping and documenting the iTunes files and enabling that to exist themed. I really miss the fourth dimension spent trying to figure out how to change a single black pixel on the screen that nosotros missed somewhere or figuring out how to display gradients and images when all you accept is black, white, and 2 shades of gray

I had both an Archos and a Cowon MP3 player dorsum in Centre/High School that I loaded Rockbox onto one of (can't think which). I call up existence able to play Doom, picket pirated Family Guy, and listen to my music all on i device and thinking this was the elevation of technology.

It run great for years on my two old Sansa Clip Zip, and now that the but barely surviving one is most to go (dead keys, lacking phones connector, reduced battery life etc) and attempting to open it is a nearly destructive functioning, Those of united states of america who wouldn't employ a cellphone for multiple reasons need an alternative, but most modernistic players are either costly due to existence niche market products or can't run Rockbox for having not enough resources. I think Rockbox desperately needs to be ported to other architectures. The cheap and powerful Esp32-WROVER modules (4MB Flash + 8MB PSRAM) could probably exist a capable candidate, and i2s for the external DAC is already supported. Non an like shooting fish in a barrel chore though.

I've been through the „I'll simply utilize it as it comes from the factory" -> „let me tweak every little matter about this and take it as far every bit I can" -> ... cycle more than times and with more devices than I intendance to admit. This was that moment with my old 30GB iPod, thanks for the trip downwardly memory lane!

This is precisely why I went with the Sansa Clips back in the solar day. They were inexpensive enough to replace easily if one bankrupt, and RockBox gave them a lot more life. I nevertheless have a few of them laying around but haven't been used much anymore due to using streaming services.

I think I picked up my first Sansa Clip+ new for £fifteen, and my second 1 (but after they were discontinued) for nigh £35. I imagine it'south gone up again since then!

Much love for Rockbox. I used to run this on the iriver h120 and use information technology for astonishing lossless recording on the inexpensive. This was one of the primeval things that got me interested in open up source.

I fondly recall the days of loading this on my fourth gen iPod, having access to games and such. I think this sort of behavior should be embraced by manufacturers, but I get it; everything needs its ain app store these days for a continuous stream of revenue.

For those interested, it can run fine on currently produced AGPTRocker/Benjie T2, although it's non officially supported as of yet. More than bulky than Sansa, simply at that place's no options left anymore.

Would y'all mind linking to more info on either that device or its rockbox support? I'thou having trouble telling if I'1000 looking at the right device with a different name or what. I'd love to have rockbox running again, my terminal player died years back. Unofficial back up would be fine equally long equally it works decently well. EDIT: Plant information technology, information technology'due south the AGPTEK Rocker v1 or v2 (same insides apparently), or also the Benjie T6. I could not find a T2 at all. Found from: http://forums.rockbox.org/alphabetize.php?topic=52220.0

Nice! Yes the thread sounds quite positive, from the skim I did. Sounds like not all functionality is working, but the basics seem to exist. AGPTek seems to non be complying with the GPL, which bothers me, only I doubt I'll be able to resist the temptation to go rockbox working again.

I loved it on my Cowon iAudio X5. Sadly it was never available for my J3. Nowadays I employ my phone and really miss the physical buttons that I could use blindly while it's in my purse.

Still running Rockbox on an iPod Video for tunes in a car that doesn't speak Bluetooth just has an aux jack. Considering an upgrade, having recently discovered there are new devices that tin can run Rockbox, including this 1: https://fiio.com/m3k Hats off to the Rockbox developers. This projection has been so solid for and then long, I kinda take it for granted.

Heh - I helped out on the port to 80GB video which came with a rather odd ATA controller on it that didn't work with the kickoff cut of the ATA commuter that Rockbox had been aircraft with before the 80GB model came along. Fun times. Still take loads of friends from the dev crowd, including Daniel Stenberg, who is improve known for coil - just was too 1 of the original Rockbox hackers. :D

I used Rockbox a lot, I even made my own build so I tin can configure some buttons to tigger specific actions. Sansa Clip+ with Rockbox has been my music player for a long time. The problem now is that mobile phones take killed multimedia players and it's difficult to discover new players with Rockbox support :-(

For those interested in helping to make Rockbox on new hardware a reality checkout this before annotate from the PinePhone developers: https://news.ycombinator.com/detail?id=21021001 Relevant thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20977788 Again, equally mentioned in the original thread: the thought is inexpensive, light+pocket-size, Free/Open, extensible hardware. Sansa were on the right track with the Clip. Not everything has to be touchscreen/hello-res display. Information technology just needs to be reasonable in cost and robust enough to withstand adventures, sleeping and some h2o.

Submariner here. Same, story. I fabricated custom iPod minis with 64GB CF cards for several guys afterwards they saw mine. (God can't come across through XX##)

Hah, I used a modded iPod Mini as well! I was awesome, especially playlist handling. And playing Doom on it.

Used to run this on my old iPod 4G and afterwards on iPod Video. Those were the days. Play whatever sound/video format you desire, could run video games. Those were the days -- can't believe information technology was just 12 years agone.

Wanted to weigh in here, I've got a 5g iPod (Wolfson DAC) with an SSD, upgraded battery and rockbox. It'due south fantastic, I use it to listen to podcasts before bed. I have something like 200Gb of music on it and I think the concluding time I charged information technology was over a month ago. I recollect the interface could apply a little smoothen, but that aside there is yet no mobile listening feel that surpasses having all of your music on you all the time and knowing that when you lot're at 50% battery you've notwithstanding got close to two days directly of listening at max volume.

Installed this on a now-ancient Toshiba Gigabeat 40GB MP3 player waay back in 2010. The default firmware and UI for a lot of non-iPod players were awful, despite having expert hardware. Rockbox had DOS-like graphics but it's functionality was amazing. I remember installing information technology because I wanted to calculate how much battery life my five-year old Toshiba had left. Information technology really had a counter where information technology'd play music till the battery died, and when y'all rebooted it, information technology'd show y'all exactly how long playback lasted. Actually nifty feature.

A few of my friends and I went on a FLAC kick dorsum in the late '00s and I retrieve installing Rockbox on a Gen four or 5 iPod in order to play my FLAC files.

Loved having Rockbox on my Toshiba Gigabeat F20. Ogg Vorbis playback, lots of battery time and stable every bit hell. Cheers for the trip downward the retentivity lane.

Works well on Sansa Fuze+. Unlike the stock firmware, it can play Opus audio, which I always encode my portable drove to.

I call up installing Rockbox on an original iPod for a blind friend of mine, just because with the right settings information technology would read out the proper noun of the song to her. It took me nearly 2 hours, because we were working on a WinXP PC with JAWS and the iPod wasn't exactly Windows-compatible, even in mass-storage mode.

I used to apply this and a few other open source firmwares on my iPod when I was at loftier school, so I could listen to FLACs. When my school friends (I was in the musical crowd) saw it, they all wanted it too, so I'd install it for them. That would've been in 2009-2010. Those were the days.

I all the same have a working iRiver iHP-100 (twoscore GiB) with Rockbox on it! Switched to information technology soon later buy, equally the original firmware was limiting. Of course, I keep it around for the memories as this was my beginning buy with money earned from RentACoder.com when I was in college. Fond memories :)

I take this on an old iPod Video - easily the best media actor I've ever had. I recall this was my first exposure to the thought of running not-Apple tree firmware on Apple devices (loathe to telephone call it a jailbreak, merely it feels sorta like one).

I however think the neuros HD. - multiple swappable storage/battery backpackd - congenital in fm transmitter - Linux based firmware / iTunes similar music management that was Linux native - mp3 ogg Flav support - radio support plus scheduled recording - Shazam like characteristic called "hear it see information technology" when plugged in - ridiculously long battery life In 2003

I use Sansa Clip Goose egg with Rockbox daily and mostly for audiobooks. My favorite characteristic is possibility to increment playback speed while keeping pitch intact

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